In both the video "Love —You're Doing It Wrong"
and the essay from the Norton Reader “Strangers." The authors use
rhetorical devices of logos and pathos most often. In the essay from the Norton
Reader “Strangers”, Toni Morrison describes seeing an old woman sitting upon
the seawall, where they talked and had a full conversation about the weather,
children, and fish recipes. When they stop seeing this woman sitting on the
seawall everyday they begin to question the neighbors, in which they say no one
has be allowed to sit on the seawall. This shows the logos aspect of this essay
because logistically there are rules against this even happening on top of no
one seeing this mystery woman, even though the author seems to remember
different. Also in the video, "Love —You're Doing It Wrong” the speaker talks
about the logical side to attraction and seduction. He explains the sadness of
one-it is and how consumerism and materialism isn’t the same thing when in
attraction. Now of pathos, we see the speaker speak of the different feelings
between him and an escalope and his wife. He explains how everyone in the
modern era becomes narcissistic and wants to feel loved in this new day and
age. While in the essay we see hoe the author relates seeing the mysterious old
woman to that of envisioning a stranger, this meant to them that they long for
and miss someone dearly.
The use of the rhetorical strategy, Pathos in “Love- you’re doing it wrong” and “Strangers”. Both of the authors in each reading strongly use the concept of emotion in their essay/ talk. In “Strangers” Toni Morrison specifically uses tone to evoke Pathos and sadness. The tone in the middle of the essay changes from the beginning where it was hope and anticipation to the tone of disappointment, puzzlement, and betrayal, characteristics of Pathos. The author begins to use rhetorical questions to begin her paragraphs, such as “Isn’t that the kind of thing we fear strangers will do?” following such a question with one-word, separate-sentence answers: “Disturb. Betray” (137). These type of words are blunt and are placed in a plain fashion meant to not only stick out to the reader, but also to stick to the readers mentality and emotion. The simple sentence structure is continued, but the purpose is not for soft comprehension but for frankness, which displays the change of tone into this betrayed attitude. She stops calling the woman “Mother Something,” a unique title for a stranger, to now just instead calling her the “fisherwoman.” In “Love- you’re doing it wrong”, speaker Yann Dall’Aglio explains love as a unique endurement. The speaker is Italian, so the topic covered is already quite emotional, when Dall’Aglio says “I negotiate my value every day. Hence the anxiety of contemporary man. He is obsessed: "Am I desirable? How desirable? How many people are going to love me?" And how does he respond to this anxiety? Well, by hysterically collecting symbols of desirability.” I find this part very emotional and I honestly start to feel sad because it is questioning all of humanity. The Pathos strategy used here reaches out to all of the audience and society because it reflects the things we keep to ourselves and the things we think about that are associated with love.
ReplyDeleteThe speaker in “Love—you’re doing it wrong” uses all three appeals to show his audience a new perspective on love. He begins by telling the audience about the history of love and what it evolved to be. He stated that love has evolved due to individuals becoming more self-fulfilled. The renaissance culture changed the way love is now and he informs us that “love is the desire to be desired.” This strategy is the logos strategy because he is bringing in facts from history to support his claim. It is also possible that he could be using the ethos strategy due to the fact that it says in the description that he is a French philosopher so he must be pretty educated about this stuff. Finally, he uses the pathos strategy by bringing in a personal anecdote from his life, which happens to be his love for his wife. This can also have the effect of members in the audience thinking about a loved one whether they are currently seeing someone or not, it could bring in past emotions of love and appeal to the audience through their emotions.
ReplyDeleteIn Yann Dall'aglio's TED talk he continuously talks about process. This process is the process of gaining and losing seduction capital. Seduction capital is what he describes as something that people use to gain the desirability of others. He describes love as, "the desire to be desired" (Dall'Aglio). This is shown as logos and pathos because it appeals to the logical side of our brain to show that we do try to buy people's affection but it also appeals to pathos because it makes us realize humans are almost needy. In Toni Morrisons essay strangers, she also talks about a process. This process was an emotional process in which she went through a series of feelings after learning what she expected was not reality. This appeals to pathos because it shows that humans are suspectable to vulnerability.
ReplyDeleteThe Rhetorical device, logos, was used in both "Love-You're doing it wrong" and "Strangers." It was used throughout the video to rationally explain why most people are loving wrong. we are too wrapped up in our love of immaterial things and our urge to have the best car, looks, or really anything that could be used to increase our own desirability.AS the presenter explained rationally and with logic,logos, we desire to be desired. And that is the basis of modern love. With that in mind the future of romantic love might be in jeopardy because of our growing detachment from each other caused by advanced technology. Toni Morrison also used logos in here piece.she realized that the older woman was imaginary and actually just a missing suppressed part of herself which is why she was so hurt when she was told she doesn't exist.Morrison logically argues that there are no strangers, just parts of ourselves we haven't explored before.and we try to coerce that other part to come to us. The logos appeal is one of the strongest you can use because logic and rational thinking is hard to refute and is usually backed up with real world and repeatable examples.
ReplyDeleteIn both "Love- You're Doing It Wrong" and "Strangers" the speakers both use pathos appeals to emotion. In the Ted talk he talks about how a man wants to be desired. His want to be desired is driven by his emotions. His need to be desired is so strong because he is afraid that no one will ever find him desirable. So the man collects things that other people would find desirable like cars and other things. In "Strangers the author talks about a woman she saw sitting on a seawall. She sympathizes with the old woman cause she sees that she is wearing clothes made for a man. When the old woman disappears she starts to long to see the old woman but doesn't know why. At the end of the reading we find that she didn't really miss the old woman just a part of herself that was lost or forgotten. The same with the Ted talk people don't really need someone to desire them but want it because they themselves don't find themselves desirable. They forget that they are human and are desirable in their own way without having to spend money on expensive things. We as readers sympathize with both the man wanting to be desired and wanting to be kind to someone old who isn't wearing the right kind of clothes. Pathos appeals to our emotions because we all have felt this way towards someone at one time or another. Love can be meant in many ways fro different things in the Ted talk he talks about how we use love and think about love for the wrong things. How sometimes seduction is more at play than love is because people don't really know what love is. To some people it is materialistic and to others it is a love for a thing rather than a person. For most people love someone or something is just wanting the absence of something they do not know is missing. Both speakers address this and how Pathos is linked to this wanting of something missing.
ReplyDeleteEthos can be seen to be present in both readings: "Love-You're doing it wrong" by Yan Dall' Aglio and "Strangers" by Toni Morrison as they both appeal and persuades the audience by establishing a clear and credible perception of themselves before they started explain their point of views of the topics discussed.
ReplyDeleteIn Strangers Toni Morrison starts off by telling a story of an old woman who she wanted to be close to and know better to be more credible to the readers. In other words. she was basically pointing out the fact that she knows exactly how it feels to be cheated and utterly confused by the acts of strangers and to strive for something so bad to the point where we portray ourselves as fools to the public. In some way, this is also related to pathos as Morrison made mention of the fear and anger she felt when she realized she might never get to find and connect with the old woman.
Aglio also used ethos as a rhetorical device for example when he accepted the fact that he was useless and of no value to people before he said the same thing about his audience. This made him more persuasive. He also made use of everyday materialistic things to provide a general and less complicated examples to analyze his explanation of what love really is. The most persuasive part of his speech which I believe everyone can relate to was his statement about how narcissistic we all are mainly to add more value to ourselves in order for people to love and appreciate us more.
In conclusion the use of ethos as a rhetorical device in both readings enabled both of them to sound more persuasive and convincing to both audiences.
In the "Love--You're doing it wrong" TED talk , Dall'aglio describes love as a desirable thing, most people want people to love them so bad. So they fill their life up with valuable things, because they feel as a human being, invaluable. The cars, the clothes, the houses, and even the super model wife. We tend to try to be materialistic. As Dall'aglio says, " We do it to make them love us, to seduce them". This explains why we buy materialistic, and fancy things in order for someone to desire us. I think Ethos is the strategy used. We use fancy things to persuade someone to be attracted to us. We all have done it before. In "Strangers", we learn that we have to see beneath someones appearance. Like they say, " Don't judge a book by its cover". Also using ethos, we look at what appeals us to most in looks, instead of looking deep down into a person. Then we often judge someone by their looks instead of their character and personality.
ReplyDeleteWithin the TED talk “Love—you are doing it wrong” and the story “Strangers”, by Toni Morrison, the speaker/author of both stories both heavily appeal to the rhetorical advice of pathos. The Speaker of the TED talk, Yann Dall’ Agilo, explains how love has been changing ever since the idea of it was brought up, and in more recent times within history it seems that people are in love with the idea of being or receiving love, then love itself. This bring a more negative tone to his talk, giving off the idea that are own selfishness is leading love itself to die out. He also gives examples within history in how love played a big part, mostly the renaissance era, where many books and lifestyles were based on the idea of love, this appeals to our more logical side of thinking. Within Toni Morrison’s story, we see that she befriends a older woman who would seat along a sea wall, but plot twist the woman doesn’t even exist, is was all her imagination. This hit Morrison’s hard since she made a loving connection with the lady, yet we can’t tell if she is more upset that someone she loved is gone, or that she was never there, this goes appeals to pathos, we could all make the connection of someone we deeply care for leaving, it’s like the phrase “when they left, apart of me left with them.” This shows that even though the person who left wasn’t necessarily real, the damage was, and that is something we could all relate with.
ReplyDeleteLogos, pathos and ethos are all essential pieces to any argument or essay. Logos refers to logic, ethos refers to the credibility of the speaker and pathos refers to emotions. In Love: You’re Doing It Wrong and in Strangers the use of these is quite prevalent and how they help establish the argument. In Love, You’re Doing It Wrong pathos is used to describe the roles of different people and later ties this back with the concept of love. In it he states that, “On the free market of individual desires, I negotiate my value every day… Am I desirable? How desirable? How many people are going to love me? “ This little piece of a pathos shows that we, as humans, constantly worry about our worth to the world and how people view us. In Strangers the author hints to the fact that the fisherwoman had been lying to her about where she lived as well as some other things which is an example of pathos and it proves how our feelings of mistrust as well as feelings for people or anyone can be misleading and can be something we rely on to make judgements. This is something that both uses of pathos that express how we use pathos to make judgements about ourselves and others.
ReplyDeleteIn Yann Dall' Agilo's and Toni Morrison's works, "Love-you are doing it wrong" and Strangers," they both use pathos to get what they're saying across to the audiences they were intending to hear them. Yann Dall' Agilo speaks about that fact that the idea of giving love and receiving love has changed throughout history. The he talks about this change makes love seem too self-involved and selfish. He gives examples of different types of ways that love can be shown and how "we're nothing" until we are given value by someone we look up to, and how we do the same to people we care about. We as people give value to the invaluable. In Toni Morrison's story, "Strangers," she meets an interesting women who is fishing and becomes attached to her. Later on, she can't seem to find the woman again and becomes angry and irritated by the fact that this woman she talked to for a brief amount of time can cause her to be so attached. Morrison wrote about the fact that she laid on sort of claim on this woman and she had become part of her emotional property. This connects to the use of pathos because almost everyone has a story they can relate to this. We've all met someone we were really intrigued by but then never saw again, causing someone to be upset about a wasted or lost opportunity to make a bond.
ReplyDeletePathos is used in both the TED talk "Love- You're Doing it Wrong" and Toni Morrison's "Strangers". During the TED talk pathos is evoked when the rhetorical questions such as, "Am I desirable?" and "how can we think of love in the years to come?" are asked. This forces the audience to answer the questions for themselves using their emotions and past experiences. He also uses the words you and we frequently throughout the presentation and in his examples. This makes the audience feel included in the topic. They can insert themselves directly into the scenarios and experience the emotions he's speaking on making them more involved.
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